Everyone is familiar with the Imus incident, but yesterday morning (hopefully former) radio talk show host Michael McGee in Milkaukee even outdid Imus, saying that he was glad that the 87-year-old mother of Charlie Sykes (a rival talk show host) died in a house fire:
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/007450.htm
I find this comment in the same league as what Rivethead (a/k/a Clint), one of our local bloggers in Amarillo, wrote a few months ago:
http://www.ivorydome.us/2007/02/27/par-for-the-course-for-liberals/
What is wrong with these people?
UPDATE(by Bodacious): Vyse, a co-worker of Rivethead/Clint (possibly even Clint) at AQHA, has defended Clint’s personal attack against me in the comment section of this post. Be sure and witness real, unhinged liberalism perpetrated by this villan.
Yeah civility is dead.
You sick fucks kill civility every day.
Michelle Malkin has never been civil with anyone.
Neither have you pieces of crap.
Riv probly said what he said after Bodacious called him an escaped mental patient on Talk Amarillo, after you accused him of using drugs, after Celtic insisted he was a child molester on more than 10 occassions.
(Hell, did Riv even say that at all? Your “par for the course” link shows nothing of the sort.) The main idea, Curious Texan is a liar. Bodacious is an admitted liar. Celtic Texan is a white supremascist.
Ladie and Gentleman, gracious readers, witness the above example of the sick and twisted views of those that would attack your humble authors and make excuses for those who wish death upon people’s loved ones.
Evidently Clint busted his friends out of the nuthouse.
So that makes it ok for him to wish death upon my family? You know that really happened, right? My family really died (Cara was 8 weeks pregnant at the time). How twisted are you to make excuses for sick behavior such as this?
If he has to resort to that level of personal attacks because he can’t take critisism he really is an escaped mental patient.
Spacedark deleted the comments, just as he said when he commented on the post that Curious Texan linked to.
And you’re a douchebag who makes excuses for lunatics.
Don’t hassle Vyse.
Anyways, fact is you brought it on yourself and I’ll gladly apologize when you offer a sincere apology to me for keeping Celtic around to not only comment, but add content to your site as well as all the name-calling and hatefulness aimed at me.
These things never happened, so you never got an apology.
In fact, you actually threatened me by posting photos of a gun ya just bought after running a site in which a blogger calls for the death of traitorous libtards like myself.
I should have you arrested.
Did anyone notice how much more civil the comments got after it was pointed out that we know where they’re coming from? Anonymity makes people think they can say the vilest things with impunity. That still doesn’t explain people like Michael McGee, though.
I’m not entirely convinced that Vyse and Rivethead/Clint aren’t one in the same person, even though Rivethead apparently posted the last comment from his home computer. So why don’t you (two?) convince me.
Rivethead: First thing Monday morning, visit this site from your work station. You don’t even have to post anything, although that would make it a little easier.
Vyse: Don’t visit this site from your work station all day Monday.
I’ll compare the IP addresses from Friday and Monday, and if they’re different – then Vyse and Rivethead/Clint are probably two different people.
Unless, of course, Vyse/Rivethead/Clint convinces one of his co-workers to let him post a comment from a work-station other than his own. (Oh my gosh, I’m getting as paranoid as Rivethead!)
In the three or so years that I’ve been blogging, I’ve only used two names: anonymous (that was early on, when I couldn’t decide on a nom-de-plume) and Curious Texan. It sure does make things a lot simpler.
This whole thing reminds of the poem:
Roses are red
Violets are blue
I’m a schizophrenic
And so am I!
(And Rivethead, before you jump to conclusions, I’m not calling you a schizophrenic.)
Heh, I don’t work at AQHA anymore! (Movin’ on up)
Vyse is an ex-coworker, but a friend.
Nice try at threatening me, though.
I’ve always been civil with you guys until you resort to this kinda shit. Name-calling, veiled threats. “I know who you are” and all that jazz. I fought back against three bullies one at a time and look at ya now. This is your lonely playground. I haven’t looked at this site in a while. I stay away because its pretty difficult to not comment on all the lies you guys tell. That is, til Vyse told me you had posted about me and about the gun post. When I realized it had worked out the way it did, I was genuinely sorry. That feeling is fading fast.
If Bo wants to apologize, now’s the time.
Not immediately, but before I’m attacked again.
He’ll get the same in return.
Until then, Curious, don’t threaten me or you might fall over into slander or libel law and I’ll sue you get gold-plated rims for my VW.
Also, the name is rivethead.
I’ve stuck to it long enough.
I changed it after I heard some of the things my last namesake said on The Savage Nation. Yeah, a lib who watches westerns! WTF? It was also a Metal Gear joke, but you guys wouldn’t get it. (Kojima patterns his main character development off Van Cleef and Eastwood’s roles.)
You can keep callin’ me both to make your point that I’m this all-over-the-place lunatic if you want, I guess. “Booya, in my face!”
Clint, you made those remarks in February. I am over it and don’t want an apology from you. The time has passed to make any sort of ammends. If you really felt bad you would have sent me an e-mail, looked me up in the phonebook, or commented on here. But you didn’t. Instead you can’t admit you were over the line and justify your comments.
Now here you are extorting me and threatening to have me arrested.
Anyone that would defend and make excuses for your sickening comments deserves to be hassled.
Yah, I brought my dead family on myself and I brought you rubbing it in my face and wishing death upon my child on myself. Yep, because I hurt your feelings and have a negative opinion of you justifies you wishing death upon my family.
If this isn’t proof of your sick twisted reality then I don’t know what is.
Take your beef up with him, then. Leave my family, my dead family, out of your sick agenda.
If you can’t handle “the internets” go home, just like you did before. We don’t miss you.
This is the first communication from you since you wished death upon my child. I never knew I was responsible for what celtic posted, let alone knew that you wanted an apology from me for it. I find it sickening you would justify your comments.
I don’t ever expect an apology from you. If you keep wanting to make vile personal attacks, be my guest.
Sounds like extortion to me.
And so this is the first communication of your sorrow? After you extort and threaten to have me arrested? You’re nuts.
Another extortion threat, great.
I don’t want an apology from you. You and your friend defend your comments before you express any inkling of sorrow.
Secondly, if you want me to apologize on behalf of someone else you can keep dreaming. I have nothing to be sorry for.
Rivethead,
The reason I made the analogy between your comments and those of Michael McGee and is that, like McGee, you had never even distanced himself from your comments in February, much less apologized. As far as I knew, you still thought that those comments were justified.
So I guess the bottom line is this: Do you still stand by what you wrote back then or not?
Back in October of last year, when you said “goodbye forever” to this blog, I posted the following comment:
http://www.ivorydome.us/2006/10/25/cherry-picking/#comment-837
I still think you may be a little too thin skinned for vigorous debate. I try to respond to personal attacks by ignoring them and not lowering myself to the same level.
If you read over our posts in recent months, you’ll notice that both Bodacious and I have taken Celtictexan to task on both his lack of fact checking and on his abusive language. If you like, I’ll post links to examples.
As far as “threats” are concerned, let me state for the record that I would never use any information gleaned from this blog to harm anyone. If I had wanted to do that, I could have made an anonymous call to your former employer a long time ago busting you for using using their equipment for your personal blogging. But that’s between you, your employer and your conscience.
And as far as Bo’s post showing his newly acquired handgun, I don’t recall Seung-Hui Cho being so open about his purchase of the two handguns he used to murder 32 of his fellow students. You should feel more threatened by people like him than law-abiding citizens who exercise their Second Amendment rights for sport shooting and/or self-defense.
“I still think you may be a little too thin skinned for vigorous debate.”
Ha! I have bested you in debate at least a dozen times. Plus you play dirty, so thats a vigorous as it gets.
Also, telling Celtic not to show what an ass he is right off the bat isn’t reining him in.
Have fun being white supremacists!
Peace-out.
See why I went into PTS the way I did last time? It’s all they deserve. I was mad about what they said to Bo. It had been eating on me ever since.
I’d kind of like to see the link to me not checking facts my self.
One thing for sure is that clit supports child molesting. We won’t be sure he is a molester till he’s busted.
See why I went into PTS the way I did last time? It’s all they deserve. I was mad about what they said to Bo. It had been eating on me ever since. [Emphasis added.]
So,let me see if I follow this: Because Rivethead (an occasional commenter on PTS) posted a vile comment about Bo’s family, “they” (i.e. everybody at PTS) said it and deserve to be called names, even though PTS quickly took down the Rivethead post.
Isn’t that the same logic that Rivethead used (i.e. Because Bo didn’t apologize for what celtictexan wrote, Bo doesn’t deserve an apology from Rivethead for his vile comment)?
I’d kind of like to see the link to me not checking facts my self.
http://www.ivorydome.us/2006/11/16/the-liberal-mind-and-solipsism/#comments
One thing for sure is that clit [sic] supports child molesting. We won’t be sure he is a molester till he’s busted.
This whole thing grew out of a comment long ago that Clint (a/k/a Rivethead) once said that digitized child pornography isn’t exploitive of children because the children aren’t actually photographed in pornographic situations. Although I vehemently disagree with his opinion, that in and of itself doesn’t make him a child molester, IMHO.
It’s pretty clear that Clint/Rivethead will never apologize for what he said about Bo’s family. Can we all just let it go, rather than stoop to his level? I’d like to think we’re better than that.
So,let me see if I follow this: Because Rivethead (an occasional commenter on PTS) posted a vile comment about Bo’s family, “they” (i.e. everybody at PTS) said it and deserve to be called names, even though PTS quickly took down the Rivethead post.
Well I didn’t get to see the post as it did come down and I saw the comment by the owner. But I’ve not seen what others said or thought. And hes still posting his dribble there. Just seems to me there was muted support regardles of vocal.
Isn’t that the same logic that Rivethead used (i.e. Because Bo didn’t apologize for what celtictexan wrote, Bo doesn’t deserve an apology from Rivethead for his vile comment)
No where near the same if he wants an apology he should be asking me not Bo. Bo is asking the right person not demanding it from Spacedark.
But your right I’ll shut up as long as I don’t go in there or deal with him or any other such radicals here. I can always be civil in civil debate no matter the subject. I think all know that.
No where near the same if he wants an apology he should be asking me not Bo. Bo is asking the right person not demanding it from Spacedark.
Just to add to this statement, if you recall that post at the end for some reason Clint became pretty humble (in retrospect his ritilan and other psycosis drugs were probably just kicking in)and pretty much addmited I was right and I recipricated by saying that I knew he wasn’t a molester, more or less an apology. Ufortunatly, and due to liberal abuses of the first ammenment, I had to delete the post due to all the searches from real perverts coming in for child porn and the other key child porn words mentioned in the post.
Liar.
I’m serious Clit! Perverts like you, really were searching for child porn and coming here. They had to be perverts cause soon as they saw what it was they were gone. No comment left. It was the number one incoming search term until I deleted the post and Bo did some of his computer magic.
“pretty much addmited I was right”
That was the lie.^
I admitted that the 3rd bill (written, but not passed) was the right bill to address the very real problem of child exploitation. We agreed that this bill would even stand up to the supreme court’s stated opinions from the two preceeding bills that were struck down. That is…. if it were ever passed.
Using the shortened version of me old moniker won’t net ya many better search terms. I’d wager that the reason you guys got so many hits from the keywords mentioned is that the search engines do a pretty darn good job of filtering exploitative content. So, the idome was near the top simply for not having the kind of horrible stuff that actually is out there.
If ya look back, (maybe on the old idome…)
You’ll see that I was pretty clear about my position on that law from the start. I stuck to my guns and when I found evidence of a law with language that actually protected kids I was declared my support for it. (This last part happened in the deleted post.)
I’d wager that the reason you guys got so many hits from the keywords mentioned is that the search engines do a pretty darn good job of filtering exploitative content.
We got so many hits was because it was filtered? That’s real genius.
No I think there are lots of folks like you, that think the SC virtual child porn ruling is a good thing, and they are seeking it out. You declared your support for that also. Regressives, I mean progressives have brought so many sick things like this to the US. You must be proud.
Must make you happy.
O_o
I don’t get it. Are you pretending to not understand the internet or do you really not understand?
Must be the latter.
Who are you asking? What are you talking about? What specifically if any is the point your trying to make.
You make ask a random question, and expect an answer, but you question is vague.
LOL
owned by him too!
Mr. Texan still doesn’t understand, but I can’t make it any clearer. I used complete sentences and a reasoned argument. What else is there? He? She? just accused me of being a deviant when faced with something it didn’t like. ( I explained why the hits happened here and not somewhere else.)
Either way we are right.
They’re wrong.
Ryv, you and others have won this argument against him several times. He refuses to understand the language of the bill or decisions. There’s really no convincing a colorblind “man” that the sky is blue when he endlessly shrieks about how very gray it is. He’ll never hear you or any other “miracle worker” over his wailing and when you grab him by the hair and howl it directly into his heart he’ll accuse you of becoming “unhinged” and “killing civility.”
Republicans crow about personal responsibility and the pitfalls of victimhood.
We can see victimhood is their first retreat.
Also on the aplogy issue:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Riv isn’t a poster or contributor at Truth Squad. Only a commenter, right? Celtic Texan is a poster/contributor/author, et al. here. Apples to oranges. If anything, Celtic actions warrant an apology from both he and his apprentices.
I say, “out with it.”
Please explain to me why I should be responsible for someone else’s actions.
Riv isn’t a poster or contributor at Truth Squad. Only a commenter, right? Celtic Texan is a poster/contributor/author, et al. here.
Let me remind everyone that no one in this thread has offered a single opinion (pro or con) about the comments of Michael McGee.
Since this urinating competition could go on ad naseum well into the summer (or even beyond), let me try to defuse it by paraphrasing Pope John Paul II:
We humbly ask for forgiveness for the part that each of us with his or her behaviors has played in such evils thus contributing to disrupting the face of Ivory Dome. At the same time, as we confess our sins let us forgive the faults committed by others towards us.
Here’s the original:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0003/12/sm.06.html
In the Age of Outrage, that probably won’t satisfy Vyse, Rivethead, or any other members of the Society of the Perpetually Offended, but it’s the best I can do at the spur of the moment.
So get over it, already!
I could care less what “riv” does or doesn’t do or where he does it. However, you are correct.
As I asked before, how does that make me responsible for his actions?
That’s just it. You aren’t responsible for anything are you “Mr. Personal Responsibility?” Seriously, think about that.
I think what Vyse is gettin’ at is that you have the power to rein in a white nationalist, yet you align yourself with him by providing a forum for him to post anything he likes. Been said before, so yeah, whatever.
I’m pretty much done here, nothing more to say.
Make as many posts as ya like about how unhinged or high on meth I must be, but I’ll be out there in the real world doing the right things, just like always. Not high on anything, not exploiting children, donating time to local and national efforts since I was in high school, both political and charitable… being everything you folks won’t even strive for, much less achieve. Standing up to bullies like you three because it will always be the right thing to do, no matter what. I’ll let someone else take over idome duty, though. I’ll have nothing to do with ya. the only reason I’m around now is because I fell for your stinkbait. Shoulda just done like someone told me and let you guys go back to your sewing circle.
As promised your apology:
I humbly ask for forgiveness for the part that I have played in such evils thus disrupting the life of Bo. At the same time, as I confess my sins, I forgive the faults committed by others towards me.
Now you change your story, how typical.
Before you wanted me to apogize for him calling you names and the above, now it is just the above.
Now that you have clarified that is all the apology you desire from me and as for the above quotation, I will do just as spacedark did, I will apoligize for enabling the hatred directed toward you. I do admit that I am responsible for enabling Celtic to say those things to you.
However, I won’t ever apolgize for his comments directed at you. As I said before, that is a conversation between you and him. I know you’re not a child molester, you know the same. As much as you dislike the guy you think it would be easier for you to get over it instead of directing your hatred for him at me.
Regardless of your contribution at PTS I never desired an apology from SD for enabling what you said (although it is very gracious that he did so), let alone holding SD directly responsible for what you said and demading an apology from him for those comments.
Also, Surely you must recognize the differnce between being characterized as a meth addict and a child molester, especially when you know it isn’t true, and having someone wish death upon your family and making that pain worse knowing it really happened. I would take being characterized as a KKK supporting, racist, meth addicted, child molesting, homophobe, animal rapist any day over having someone wish death upon my family. But, that is just my opinion.
Thank you and thank you for being civil in your response.
I do admit that I am responsible for enabling Celtic to say those things to you.
No you are’nt. Don’t let him sucker you in like that. I was enduring that yappy little dog long before I was in here or even knew you. He came here and restarted it after I quit posting in PTS. Why don’t he mouth at and demand an apology from SD? His child porn loving rant and my response started at PTS. SD didn’t ban me or apologize or whatever the twerp want’s.
And I hope you realize the sarcasm of that apology. There was no honest civility there. I’ve only seen that once from him and now he denies it. Unfortunetly that post is gone.
Liar ^
^
yap, yap, yapyapyap,yap
(Channeling Rivethead) “You’re dumb, I’m smart. You lose, I win. I’m waaaay smarter than you are. Blow it out your hole, old man. Nah nah nah nah nah!
LOL he is such a twit. Parents should really monitor the activeties of their children online.
No.
Otherwise more people would get punched in the throat then there are already on a daily basis.
The retarded parrots are just more vocal and belligerent then they used to be.
I do miss actual debate. The give and take. The new ideas that are born out a fresh perspective. I’d rather mourn the loss of innovation and charisma.
Everything is packaged and scripted. I can get my democrat in a convenient travel size, or I can get my republican in the same package but with different colors.
I do miss actual debate. The give and take. The new ideas that are born out a fresh perspective.
IMHO, I think you’ve come to the right place. Bodacious (who started this blog), celtictexan and myself are all conservative, but we don’t always agree (see our posts about single-member districts, for instance). Dio and Vyse occasionally stop by and offer a view to the left of ours. I benefit a lot from all of their unique perspectives, especially when we don’t see eye to eye (like steel sharpening steel).
Welcome to Ivory Dome. The more opinions were share, the more we grow (both intellectually and in terms of numbers).
I also would like to extend a welcome Druid7. We welcome all civil debate and opinion. To echo CT it’s what makes a person grow.
“I do miss actual debate.”
If you consider calling someone a meth-addled child molester every time they win a debate,”actual debate,” then you are in luck. If not, keep looking.
Luckily, these guys are harmless. Wolves licking blades.
That is all.
You never won a debate in your life clint you’ve never actually debated. All you do is insult. You never debate as your stuck to the the liberal cause like Ber Rabbit and the proverbial tar baby.
If your really someone different, then look back a year or so at PTS you will see Clint express his support for Virtual child porn and decriminalizing meth. We had to delete a similar post about child porn here as there was so many incoming searches from his child porn loving fellow libs.
What the hell is virtual child pr0n?
Also, I doubt he argued for decriminalizing methamphetamines as we’ve both seen people taken from their bodies and then the earth by those drugs.
You always make stuff up, though don’t ya?
Just like Bodacious and Prof. Curious.
I know, I know…
when the Race War comes, I’ll get what’s coming to me.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/04/16/scotus.virtual.child.porn/
Like I say look back in the PTS posts Clint defended the above. Same with the drug legalization issue. Is he a child por loving druggy? I don’t know. Like a say both are liberal issues and he supports anything branded liberal with absolutly no thought at all. Just pure emotionalism. But that is all liberl thought is no intellect, just pure pie in the sky emotion.
“But that is all liberl thought is no intellect…”
Great, ok
As far as VCP goes, It is supposedly legal, right?
Has been for years, right?
So, prove it exists. The decisions published by the Supreme Court state it DOES NOT exist, so legislating against it is unlawful. Giraffe gloves don’t exist. They don’t seem like a very good idea either. Do you wanna outlaw those too? You clearly don’t understand this issue and neither did the legislature to write a bill like the one in question. Real kids are being exploited through truly devlish niches like preteen modeling and you’re focusing energy on smearing someone you’re too scared to even face. Way to protect the kids, there.
The Supreme Court has published two decisions on two different, but similar cases. I’d urge you to view those archives. They’re available online for your convenience.
Next, you don’t know if Riv is a “child por loving druggy.” So, you join Bodacious in admitting that you are a liar.
Anyway, I’d have to say that you’ve clearly got these issues on the brain. My theory is that you’re showing a “subconcious tell” of your own personal afflictions.
Do what you please, just don’t ever play poker.
You lost this hand.
Re-deal?
Anyway, I’d have to say that you’ve clearly got these issues on the brain.
Let me see if I’ve got this right. 1) Vyse brings this up out of the blue:
If you consider calling someone a meth-addled child molester every time they win a debate,”actual debate,” then you are in luck. If not, keep looking.
Then 2) celtictexan explains the genesis of this never-ending feud, and 3) it’s celtictexan who’s “clearly got these issues on the brain.”
News alert, Vyse – We’ve moved on. Why can’t you?
Could it be because you don’t believe in the kind of “give and take” discussion that Druid7 described? It’s uncanny how you, just like Clint/Rivethead, have this need to unilaterally declare victory and belittle everyone else.
Amazing, isn’t it, that two people with exactly the same modus operandi work (or used to work?) at the same place.
(If you’re still out there, Druid7, I apologize for this ongoing urinating contest.)
Anyone care to comment on the theme of the original post, namely the antics of one Michael McGee?
Amazing, isn’t it, that two people with exactly the same modus operandi work (or used to work?) at the same place.
Yeah, and notice he brought up the same thing about child modeling. Definetly Clint. And your right same as
and all the other morons at PTS he won’t debate in a civil way. So I’m done with it.
Like I said, “Keep looking.”
These guys are liars, but they’ll lie down in the soft snow soon.
Wolves licking blades. They’re sure thay know all about the hunter who placed the bloody upturned knife in the ground. Problem is, they don’t even know they’re licking a blade. They’re only wolves affter all. Slowly, they’ll bleed to death as they continue to taste blood and flesh.
This is how tribal man hunted some beasts that were pests, but didn’t deserve the honor of a hunt (or were only bait for a real trophy.)
Incredibly wise, efficient, sober.
It’s freakin’ awesome if you ask me.
Better than Wimbledon.
Sorry unlike liberals, and the love you guys have for de-evolution, I’m unable to identify with your thinking. Come back after a couple of hundred thousand years. No, that won’t work, as we’ll still be that much above you.
I think you’ve come to the right place.
I’ve know Bodacious for a while. I just keep forgetting to stop by here.
Vyse, as Druid7 said, he has know me for quite a while, old high school friends. I know him enough he isn’t going to fall for your shenanigans. That and I know him enough he wouldn’t take the word of someone who makes excuses for those who wish death upon the famlies of others.
Anyone care to comment on the theme of the original post, namely the antics of one Michael McGee?
[Crickets chirping]
I guess not.