This has already happened in Scotland. It would be a long story but it’s why my ancestors ended up here in the US. Well actually it was between clans. The McDonalds from which I’m decended got mad at the McAllister’s and short story they outnumbered us.

Anyway why Mexican, African, Scot, Irish, insert what ever here_______. Why not just American? That’s really my point.

Why do you say you have no solitary cultural background?

Not all Christians are the same, and not all Muslims act the same that is a broad generalization. I could say all Conservatives are misinformed, it seems they are, but that would not be the truth either. Therefore I can’t accept a generalization about all Muslims being stoners (not the American “Stoner” mind you). Just the extremists of that sect of Islam.

If a culture war happened in America, between Americans of all cultures, then where are the Scots in Texas? I’d be in a pickle then. I don’t have a solitary cultural background. And should we then just go out and pick any other culture and pick a fight? I mean I’d have to whip up on myself. What if the Irish Americans were against the Scottish Americans? Would you just stay in doors? And what about the Mexican Ameicans that are several generations in only the U.S. should they fight the new legal Mexican immigrants or just the illegal Mexican immigrants? And how would they know.

Anyway have a nice Memorial day.

PEACE

The above plus shooting out babies like a frigin roman candle. The above and what I added are culture, as defined here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture

Google up the story about a White teacher in an almost all black shool who just won a lawsuit. The principle of the school refused to even try to stop the black kids from constantly calling her racist and derogatory names. The principle stated that these behaviors were part of their culture. Also again find and watch Nation of Atzlan on youtube. Tell me where you see a desire to assimilate.

I lean toward that, not that they are an inferior culture. I am sorry Celtic but that is rubbish to me

And yeah you saw a video of one sect of Islam that is killing that girl. But it happens every day in all of Islam. This is not a single extremist group, it is Sharia law as codified in the Qur’an. The treatment of women through out Islam is barbaric. It is the culture of Islam.
Check muslimsout.org for the real face of Islam.

You and I both will probably have a cookout this Memorial day. You may head to church or the lake, or take in a movie like i will do. How is one better than the other?

The question here is not how, but if, you will be remembering the men who have died to ensure our rights and freedoms. If you are truely thinking of these men you are participating in American culture and values. If its just another hoiday, excuse to get drunk, or worse a day that many will consider immoral then those actions to me would not be “better”.

I have my own mixed cultural practices too but I can’t say they’re better than yours or my friends.

Well said and so do I. But if circumstances force you to make a choice (say the unlikely event of war with Scotland) between American or in my case say Scotland where would you loyalties lie? Mine would be with America.

Now as I stated on the other site, I think fanaticism and extremes in religions are the problem not the religion. It is a small sect of Islam that stoned the girl, just as al Qaeda only pulls in those that seek extremism in their beliefs. David Koresh, Jim Jones, and whatever other Christian cultists and extremist don’t speak for all of us do they though they are indeed of the same Christian religion.

You are still assuming all of America is a single culture as well. I have Mexican, Black, Polish, Irish, German and Asian friends that all practice their own historical cultures as well as American popular culture. I have my own mixed cultural practices too but I can’t say they’re better than yours or my friends.

You and I both will probably have a cookout this Memorial day. You may head to church or the lake, or take in a movie like i will do. How is one better than the other?

And the reason for the weak and stagnant economy is—-?

You would not consider the culture of Islam, which is religion, law, and government all in one package inferior to American culture? I know you saw the video on the other site ofthe girl being stoned to death. Is a culture that allows that truely equal to ours?

-Islam kills 200 of them and their response?

I am sure you meant “al Qaeda” rather than simply Islam.

You are assuming culture and race to be the same thing. Nazi Germany, Communism, are forms of government but also political culture. Catholics and Baptist are religions but also culture. Scottish and American cultures are different but consist mostly of Whites. Race is not the same as any person of any race could be practicing any of the above.

If a person from south of the border comes here legal or not, they are running from an inferior culture. If things were so great in Mexico they would not come here. The problem is that they are not willing for the most part, to become American. We do not even try to make them become American. We cater to there culture, the same culture they are running from. People don’t come here because our culture is better, they come because their own culture sucks. If we adapt to there culture instead of requiring them to adapt to ours then we will become what they ran from. We will become the culture that sucks.

Race is an entirely different subject than culture.

If the kkk were attacking or aiding attacks against Spain with the blessing of the US government, Then I think so. Of course Spain would not even be able to get here. Islam kills 200 of them and their response? Run tail between legs. They should have fought.

I dont see that as an adequite answer.

That’s fair.

Again shouldn’t we attack terrorists rather than civilians.

Please elaborate, by this statement, do you contend our forces are actively targeting civillians?

We are attacking terrorists, specifically a nation that sponsored and was willing to arm terrorists if given the chance. If you don’t agree please illustrate my incorectness.

Regime change is possible without all out war.

In what way? Insipring the people through sanctions and whatnot to carry out a revolution? If that is your supposition then I contend we tried that without result. After more than a decade of sanctions and pressure from the UN the oppressed of Iraq did almost nothing for their own good to halt their oppressors.

Also if those terrorists had those weapons wouldn’t they have used those by now, rather than using airplanes or IEDs?

I never said terrorists had those weapons. I contend that the potential existed for the terrorists to obtain WMDs through collaboration with Saddam. Even looking back, given Saddam’s collaboration with terrorists and willingness to reconstitute WMD programs I think we did the right thing.

Do you see the KKK as a terrorist organization?

Yes

They may claim not to be malignant in their intent anymore but so does Hamas, yes?

Are you sure you mean Hamas? Wikipedia says that just recently they called for Attacks on American targets, and unless you just completely missed it Hamas is responsible for that Mickey Mouse rip off to incite violence against jews.

I don’t intend to defend the KKK, but the only thing I have heard from them recently is speaking out against illegal immigration. Considering the deaths and terror caused by the KKK compared to the deaths and terror caused by Hamas, I would say the KKK is quite tame.

The U.S. allows KKK members to buy guns, correct?

Please elaborate, are you equating 2nd ammendment rights to the government arming a terrorist organization?

We accept KKK members in to the military, yes?

Yes, but because someone wants to defend the constitution of the United states and happens to be a member of the KK doesn’t mean that the government is actively supporting terror. That is a great stretch. Unless I am misintepreting your statement, please elaborate on how defending the constution is equatable to supporting terrorism.

It can be argued that we are supporting the KKK that way, training and arming.

If the whole of the KKK were endorsed and part of the US military then I would agree with you, but they are not and I would assume the vas majority of service members think very little of the KKK.

Celtictexan supports the idea of, putting down mutliculturalism (racism? I am unclear on this), isn’t that in essence a helping hand to the KKK? Encouragement.

Help me understand, are you saying that the idea of “putting down multiculturalism” and the goals of the KKK are similar?

If that is the case, I ask then, is it fair the some people on the right denounce and characterize the left as terrorists because they have the same goals as Al-Qaeda, getting the US out of Iraq?

PS: I quite enjoy this friendly, rigorous debate. It seems that any thread that Rivethead character takes part in devolves to him going into a narcissistic fit.